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Monday, July 15th 2024
by AleksandarKDiscuss (167 Comments)
In the preparation season for NVIDIA's upcoming GeForce RTX 50 Series of GPUs, codenamed "Blackwell," one power supply manufacturer accidentally leaked the power configurations of all SKUs. Seasonic operates its power supply wattage calculator, allowing users to configure their systems online and get power supply recommendations. This means that the system often gets filled with CPU/GPU SKUs to accommodate the massive variety of components. This time we have the upcoming GeForce RTX 50 series, with RTX 5050 all the way up to the top RTX 5090 GPU. Starting with the GeForce RTX 5050, this SKU is expected to carry a 100 W TDP. Its bigger brother, the RTX 5060, bumps the TDP to 170 W, 55 W higher than the previous generation "Ada Lovelace" RTX 4060.
The GeForce RTX 5070, with a 220 W TDP, is in the middle of the stack, featuring a 20 W increase over the Ada generation. For higher-end SKUs, NVIDIA prepared the GeForce RTX 5080 and RTX 5090, with 350 W and 500 W TDP, respectively. This also represents a jump in TDP from Ada generation with an increase of 30 W for RTX 5080 and 50 W for RTX 5090. Interestingly, this time NVIDIA wants to unify the power connection system of the entire family with a 16-pin 12V-2x6 connector but with an updated PCIe 6.0 CEM specification. The increase in power requirements for the "Blackwell" generation across the SKUs is interesting, and we are eager to see if the performance gains are enough to balance efficiency.
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AusWolfBut why should I use a bulky 2x8-pin adaptor when a single 6-pin cable would do the job just fine?
They are honestly pretty slim if you get a braided one not much more unmanageable than a single 8 pin and being able to do 100 to 600 watts makes it pretty versatile a lot of SFF Cases fit a 4090 FE these days after all but I mean for anyone who doesn't like it don't buy and FE card or high end nvidia one pretty sure their will be 5050/5060s with a single 8 pin just not from nvidia.
Better Than Native
oxrufiioxoYou can easily get a 2x8 pin to 16 pin adapter for almost every major psu maker
Exactly that, not bulky, not ugly, connect it once and forget it exists. I get the feeling half the people [still] complaining about the connector wouldn't buy an RTX 50 card anyway, even if it had 6/8 pin.
wolfExactly that, not bulky, not ugly, connect it once and forget it exists. I get the feeling half the people [still] complaining about the connector wouldn't buy an RTX 50 card anyway, even if it had 6/8 pin.
I get it for some though but yeah I wouldn't buy a card without one others won't with one good for them.
Let's how many people with their big mouths actually leave NVIDIA due to a connector.
I bet the same amount moving to Linux... aka NONE!
wolfExactly that, not bulky, not ugly, connect it once and forget it exists. I get the feeling half the people [still] complaining about the connector wouldn't buy an RTX 50 card anyway, even if it had 6/8 pin.
i dont mind the new adapter, but i will wait for early reviews... 3 months at least to see if it will sacrifice itself to the fire god.....
TheDeeGeeLet's how many people with their big mouths actually leave NVIDIA due to a connector.I bet the same amount moving to Linux... aka NONE!
I mean if you like Nvidia's feature set and want a high end gpu there really isn't going to be an alternative... I mean I hope whatever RDNA4 ends up being is amazing it's better for everyone when both companies are competitive and have good products but if it ends up being a 7900XT with better RT it better be cheap....
ARFSince when? Have you asked AMD? And how many Radeons and intel Arcs exactly use this new low quality power connector?
This is not an AMD or an Intel thread is it? So it is obvious I'm speaking about NVidia standard 16 pin connector.
Hyderzi dont mind the new adapter, but i will wait for early reviews... 3 months at least to see if it will sacrifice itself to the fire god.....
I tried really hard to get mine to burn even broke the clip and used it for almost 6 months lol
oxrufiioxoThey are honestly pretty slim if you get a braided one not much more unmanageable than a single 8 pin and being able to do 100 to 600 watts makes it pretty versatile a lot of SFF Cases fit a 4090 FE these days after all
It's still an extra unnecessary cable plugged into the PSU contributing to more mess inside your case (coming from the guy who uses a single 8-pin CPU power cable even though his motherboard has 8+4 pin input).
oxrufiioxobut I mean for anyone who doesn't like it don't buy and FE card or high end nvidia one pretty sure their will be 5050/5060s with a single 8 pin just not from nvidia.
I hope Nvidia won't force partners to use the 16-pin on every card.
oxrufiioxoI tried really hard to get mine to burn even broke the clip and used it for almost 6 months lol
from what i have seen and read, there was the bending near the connector, then the quality of the connector which a famous cable group asked for the cables to come back
then it was from nvidia saying users didn't shove it in hard enough .... so there was like certain variations of what could go wrong.... kinda like the spiderman meme pointing at each others....
TheDeeGeeLet's how many people with their big mouths actually leave NVIDIA due to a connector.
I bet the same amount moving to Linux... aka NONE!
Many people will not buy an nvidia card because of the connector, the melting one.
Hyderzfrom what i have seen and read, there was the bending near the connector, then the quality of the connector which a famous cable group asked for the cables to come back
then it was from nvidia saying users didn't shove it in hard enough .... so there was like certain variations of what could go wrong.... kinda like the spiderman meme pointing at each others....
I think it was a real issue don't get me wrong just me and none of my buddies all different models of the 4090 could reproduce it but we tried pretty hard during the 30 day return period..... I tried again recently when I broke the clip and didn't notice after my move in November lol.
wolfExactly that, not bulky, not ugly, connect it once and forget it exists. I get the feeling half the people [still] complaining about the connector wouldn't buy an RTX 50 card anyway, even if it had 6/8 pin.
I would at the right price. I only boycotted Ampere and Ada because of the price gouging happening on the green side lately.
AusWolfI would at the right price. I only boycotted Ampere and Ada because of the price gouging happening on the green side lately.
as bad as Nvidia pricing has been a 900 usd 7900XT launch MSRP was pretty comical..... So neither company is immune to stupid pricing.
TheDeeGeeLet's how many people with their big mouths actually leave NVIDIA due to a connector.I bet the same amount moving to Linux... aka NONE!
I left Nvidia due to recent prices. The connector is only icing on the cake.
oxrufiioxoI tried really hard to get mine to burn even broke the clip and used it for almost 6 months lol
Clearly didn't try hard enough :slap:
R0H1TClearly didn't try hard enough :slap:
I let it run at 600w barely plugged in for 10 days running looped speedway not sure what else I could have done but gotten a lighter and lit it on fire myself lol.
oxrufiioxoas bad as Nvidia pricing has been a 900 usd 7900XT launch MSRP was pretty comical..... So neither company is immune to stupid pricing.
Both the 7700 XT and 7900 XT came at laughable prices, and I've still got mixed feelings about the 7600. But the 7800 XT and 7900 XTX aren't bad for what they cost, not to mention the 7900 GRE. On the other hand, I can't think of a single 40-series Nvidia card that's worth the price, imo. Maybe the 4080 Super, but that's a gigantic, massive maybe.
oxrufiioxoas bad as Nvidia pricing has been a 900 usd 7900XT launch MSRP was pretty comical..... So neither company is immune to stupid pricing.
It's 650$ now. Buy it while you can.
oxrufiioxoI let it run at 600w barely plugged in for 10 days running looped speedway not sure what else I could have done but gotten a lighter and lit it on fire myself lol.
Generally speaking though the xx90 cards are made to last & solid. So any mishaps, even if possible, are usually rare.
AusWolfBoth the 7700 XT and 7900 XT came at laughable prices, and I've still got mixed feelings about the 7600. But the 7800 XT and 7900 XTX aren't bad for what they cost. On the other hand, I can't think of a single 40-series Nvidia card that's worth the price, imo.
I like the 4070/4070 super better than the 7800XT but I view all 3 as 1080p cards actually purchased one for that purpose.....
7900XTX was ok but most decent models were close to 1100 at launch rather have an FE 4080 at that price.
Of all the Radeon cards I actually like the 7900GRE the best at 550 but not a penny more.
ARFIt's 650$ now. Buy it while you can.
It's finally hit the price it should have launched at...... Good for AMD fans I guess.
oxrufiioxoIt's finally hit the price it should have launched at...... Good for AMD fans I guess.
I wouldn't be so rude to point the finger onto normal people who value the better product.
ARFI wouldn't be so rude to point the finger onto normal people who value the better product.
it was a bad product at 900 it's fine now for 650 if you hate RT and can stomach FSR at 1440p I couldn't but hats off to those who can.
oxrufiioxoI like the 4070/4070 super better than the 7800XT but I view all 3 as 1080p cards actually purchased one for that purpose.....
12 GB VRAM for over 500 quid? That's the textbook definition of the word "ripoff".
oxrufiioxo7900XTX was ok but most decent models were close to 1100 at launch rather have an FE 4080 at that price.Of all the Radeon cards I actually like the 7900GRE the best at 550 but not a penny more.
It's finally hit the price it should have launched at...... Good for AMD fans I guess.
AMD launched most 7000 models at meh prices, but corrected most of them shortly after. Meanwhile, Nvidia launched most, if not all 4000 models at covid/mining boom prices and left them there. I hope they'll fix this with Blackwell, but I have my doubts.
oxrufiioxoit was a bad product at 900 it's fine now for 650 if you hate RT and can stomach FSR at 1440p I couldn't but hats off to those who can.
Why would you need FSR at 1440p with a 7900 XT?
AusWolf12 GB VRAM for over 500 quid? That's the textbook definition of the word "ripoff".AMD launched most 7000 models at meh prices, but corrected most of them shortly after. Meanwhile, Nvidia launched most, if not all 4000 models at covid/mining boom prices and left them there. I hope they'll fix this with Blackwell, but I have my doubts.
Both cards are going to be too slow before the vram difference matters the 4070 is already struggling in some games and it has nothing to do with Vram..... 8 GB at 400 usd or above is stupid but the 7800XT is honestly too weak for me to care that it has 16GB the 4070ti 12 GB on the other hand was probably the GPU I liked the least but others have it and are fine so it is what it is.
AusWolfWhy would you need FSR at 1440p with a 7900 XT?
Because I enjoy having the FPS of a 4090 at 1440p which would take FSR to even approach with a 7900XT some games already only hit 60fps on a 4090 at 1440p UW as it is...
175 is my target btw I would be about 115 fps short in the last decedent without RT on a 7900XT lol..... Turn on RT and I am 140 short of that....
I am happy at 120 though anything lower nah.....
I'm not saying I am right or wrong on how I view gaming but everyone has their own personal taste... Someone happy at 60fps good for them cuz that is what the 7900XT is going to hit in a lot of stuff I play or even lower.
