7 Tower Thoughts: Cayde-6 (2024)

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Let's dig into a 7 Tower Thoughts focusing entirely on the news that Cayde-6 is coming back to Destiny 2.

Guardians, Cayde-6 is coming back to Destiny 2 with original actor Nathan Fillion voicing the character. Perhaps the most beloved Guardian in franchise history, Cayde’s imminent return is good news for everyone. There are a lot of questions to dig through about this news, though, so let’s dive in and start theorizing.

Cayde is still dead

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This seems like a no-brainer, but the Final Shape teaser showed Cayde sitting near a fire without a Ghost. Ikora, who was also at the fire, had a Ghost. This would suggest that Ikora is alive, and that Cayde is dead. There’s also what appears to be Light spilling out of Cayde’s eyes, giving him an almost ghostly appearance.

Cayde is inside the Traveler

This is another easy one given that we can see the same portal visible from outside the Traveler in the teaser for the Final Shape. It’s clear that Ikora and Cayde are inside the Traveler, which brings up more questions than answers. If Cayde is indeed still dead, is this Heaven, Hell, or even Guardian Valhalla? If Cayde died and went to an afterlife inside the Traveler, is this where all the dead Guardians go? If so, there are both friends and foes here. If this is where Light-wielders go when they die, we’re about to meet some characters that have only ever appeared in lore, and they aren’t all going to be friendly.

Cayde likely isn’t back permanently

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I just don’t see Cayde coming back to the Destiny universe on a full-time basis. What I suspect, and it’s pure speculation, is that Cayde will be back for The Final Shape, helping us in our battle against The Witness. I think once that’s wrapped up, Cayde will be gone again. I just don’t see the character walking back into the Tower and taking up his old role as Hunter Vanguard. Maybe I’m wrong, and part of me hopes I am, but it seems too good to be true.

The return of Savathûn?

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This calls back to a thought I had earlier about meeting friends and foes who have died wielding the Light, but if that prediction is true, Savathûn and the Lucent Hive will be present inside the Traveler. Maybe Bungie will get crazy and have Savathûn join us in a similar way to Empress Caiatl and Mithrax? I don’t know.Savathûn's Ghost isn't dead so she can technically be revived, so I’m just throwing things at the wall here, but it’s fun to consider.

Will Osiris get Sagira back?

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If Guardians go to this place when they die, what about Ghosts? Maybe this is where Osiris gets Sagira back, which I think would be a very cool thing. Even cooler if Cayde has been taking care of her all this time. Another longshot, but nothing breaks my heart more than when Osiris calls for Sagira, momentarily forgetting she’s gone.

I’m glad we didn’t kill Crow

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We killed Uldren Sov, but when a Ghost resurrected that body, it became Crow. Now, I’ve long wanted to shoot Crow again. I get that he doesn’t remember what he did, and that we also could have a very troubled past, but that dude killed Cayde. I can’t let that go. At least now I’m glad we didn’t kill him (again) because I’m looking forward to that face-to-face meeting.

We’ll be joining Cayde

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We’ve already visited our own grave and heard the kind words of Saint-14 as he memorialized us. We know that in some timeline we die. The Final Shape would make a lot of sense, as that will be Year 8 of Destiny 2, and Year 11 of the franchise. I’m speculating here with no inside knowledge or solid points to back up my thought, but I think we’re getting Destiny 3 in 2025, and what better way to transition to a new Destiny story than to kill our Guardians off in Year 8? Maybe not the start of The Final Shape, but the end perhaps?

Let me know what you think, Guardians. What theories or questions do you have about Cayde coming back to Destiny 2?

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Who is Cayde's 6 daughter? ›

No, Uldren and Mara are split from birth. Ana Bray is Cayde's daughter.

Is Cayde-6 still dead? ›

The story campaign of Forsaken is primarily driven by the desire to pursue Cayde-6's killers and avenge the character. Cayde-6 is shown again and seems to be alive in the trailer for the The Final Shape expansion, shown in the 2023 Playstation Showcase.

What is Cayde-6's ghost name? ›

Sundance was the Ghost of Cayde-6. She was killed by the Scorn, Pirrha, the Rifleman, at the start of Forsaken.

Who killed Cayde-6's ghost? ›

Pirrha was a deadly shot and is responsible for the deaths of several notable fighters, such as Awoken Paladins Tellos Cir, Loris Pol, and Hollis Eso at Pallas Falls. He had a penchant for destroying Ghosts to truly end the life of any lightbearer; one such casualty was the Ghost of Cayde-6, Sundance.

Did Cayde-6 have a wife? ›

Cayde's Letter Fragments in Destiny 2 reveal that Cayde had a wife and a son whom he nicknamed "Ace", he threw his life away gambling, and that his only means of escape was to sell himself to Clovis Bray's Exo program.

Could Cayde-6 be brought back? ›

The idea here is that it's entirely possibly that Crow was tricked into using an Ahamkara wish to bring Cayde back to life. The ship is called “Unforseen Consequences” and its flavor text is “Be careful what you wish for” which uh, is a pretty good clue up front.

Did Crow wish Cayde back? ›

Crow Wished Cayde Back From the Dead

He then begins to explain how he got inside the Traveler in the first place — how he wished himself there on an Ahamkara.

Is Destiny 2 done after final shape? ›

No, The Final Shape won't be the end of Destiny 2.

Expansions should still be a thing after that, but we don't know yet whether Bungie is looking to shake things up after this saga or not.

Will Cayde-6 be replaced? ›

However, given Cayde-6 was fatally wounded and his Ghost destroyed, he can't be revived or rebooted in the traditional sense. As such, he likely won't become Cayde-7. Instead, he's expected to come back as a spirit of some kind using the power of the Light, while his physical body remains deceased.

Who is the main villain in Destiny 2 The Final Shape? ›

Plot. The Final Shape centers on the Witness, the main overarching antagonist of the Light and Darkness saga (which began with the original Destiny) who was first introduced at the end of The Witch Queen.

What were Cayde's last words? ›

"You tell Zavala and Ikora...the Vanguard...is the best bet... I've ever...lost..." — Cayde-6's final words. Cayde facing his final moments.

Who is Cayde's son? ›

Ace is Cayde-6's son who he mostly forgot about after becoming an Exo. Little is known about Ace other than that Cayde, unable to contact his family after he sold himself to Clovis Bray's Exo Program, kept a journal which he addressed to Ace. Cayde also named his prized hand cannon, the Ace of Spades, after him.

Is Banshee-44 a guardian? ›

Banshee-44 is an Exo and Gunsmith, outfitting Guardians with weapons and armour in his corner of the Tower. Banshee was known by a different name upon his creation: Clovis-1. Clovis Bray I created an Exo body to house his own consciousness after his death, prolonging his life and conserving his legacy.

Did Cayde-6 have a son? ›

Ace is Cayde-6's son who he mostly forgot about after becoming an Exo. Little is known about Ace other than that Cayde, unable to contact his family after he sold himself to Clovis Bray's Exo Program, kept a journal which he addressed to Ace. Cayde also named his prized hand cannon, the Ace of Spades, after him.

Who is Cayde-6 Queen of Hearts? ›

Queen of Hearts is an Exotic Arcadia-class Jumpship owned by the Hunter Vanguard Cayde-6. It is available to Guardians from Amanda Holliday after they avenge Cayde's death, if they purchased the Pre-Order pack.

Who was before Cayde-6? ›

Andal Brask was the Hunter Vanguard before Cayde-6. Cayde-6 took the Vanguard Dare, which he lost, so he accepted the position as the new Hunter Vanguard.

Who is the father of Ana Bray? ›

Anastasia Bray is a Huntress and the adopted daughter (in reality his illegitimate daughter) of Clovis Bray II. Who in the wake of her adopted father's arrest in the aftermath of Crom Crisis, became the new CEO of the Bray Corporation.

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